{"id":290,"date":"2000-08-29T14:08:16","date_gmt":"2000-08-29T12:08:16","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/pergamena.hr\/proba\/?p=290"},"modified":"2023-01-29T21:16:34","modified_gmt":"2023-01-29T20:16:34","slug":"filoloske-sitnice-i-pabirci","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/pergamena.hr\/?p=290","title":{"rendered":"Filolo\u0161ke sitnice i pabirci"},"content":{"rendered":"<div style=\"float:right;padding: 0 0 10px 10px\" class=\"interactive_right\"><div class='button_holder_right'><iframe src=\"http:\/\/www.facebook.com\/plugins\/like.php?href=https%3A%2F%2Fpergamena.hr%2F%3Fp%3D290&amp;layout=standard&amp;show_faces=false&amp;width=75&amp;action=recommend&amp;font=arial&amp;colorscheme=dark&amp;height=31\" scrolling=\"no\" frameborder=\"0\" style=\"border:none; overflow:hidden; width:75px; height:31px;\" allowTransparency=\"true\"><\/iframe><\/div><\/div><p><a href=\"http:\/\/pergamena.hr\/proba\/wp-content\/uploads\/2000\/08\/Filoloske-sitnice-i-pabirci-naslovna.jpg\"><img decoding=\"async\" loading=\"lazy\" class=\"alignleft size-full wp-image-762\" title=\"Filoloske sitnice i pabirci - naslovna\" src=\"http:\/\/pergamena.hr\/proba\/wp-content\/uploads\/2000\/08\/Filoloske-sitnice-i-pabirci-naslovna.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"183\" height=\"270\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>\u2022 \u00a0Autor: <strong>Ivan Broz<\/strong><br \/>\n\u2022 \u00a0Godina izdanja:\u00a0<strong>2000.\u00a0 <\/strong><br \/>\n\u2022 \u00a0Uvez:<strong>\u00a0meki<\/strong><br \/>\n\u2022 \u00a0Dimenzije: <strong>18 x 12 cm<\/strong><br \/>\n\u2022 \u00a0Broj stranica:<strong> 122<\/strong><br \/>\n\u2022 \u00a0Cijena: <strong>\u20ac8,00<\/strong> \/ 60,00 kn<\/p>\n<p><strong><strong><strong>\u2022\u00a0\u00a0<a title=\"NARUD\u017dBA\" href=\"http:\/\/pergamena.hr\/?page_id=1138\">NARU\u010cI<\/a><strong> <strong>\u00a0\u2022<\/strong><\/strong><\/strong> \u00a0<\/strong><\/strong><\/p>\n<blockquote>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\"><strong>Filologijske sitnice:<\/strong><br \/>\nBave\u0107i se oko hrvatske filologije, desi mi se \u010desto zgoda, da pribilje\u017eim i koje\u0161ta sitno, \u0161ta mislim, da bi bilo vrijedno da se znade. Ove svoje sitne bilje\u0161ke, dozvolite g. urednice, da objelodanim u Va\u0161em vrijednom listu, u kojem su, kake su na\u0161e knji\u017eevne prilike, jo\u0161 ponajbolje pristale.<br \/>\nI na\u0161 \u00bbVienac\u00ab prikupio je ovakih sitnih bilje\u017eaka u nizu \u010dlanaka, \u0161to ih je napisao a i sad ih jo\u0161 pi\u0161e g. T. M. pod naslovom \u00bbFilologi\u010dko iverje\u00ab.<br \/>\nVi mi ne \u0107ete g. urednice zamjeriti, ako se, prije nego \u0161to \u0107u da iznesem svoje sitnice, malko obazrem i na Iverje, u kojem bi trebalo, po mom mi\u0161ljenju, koje\u0161ta ispraviti i u metodu i u resultatima.<br \/>\nI.<br \/>\n\u00bbGotovo svi na\u0161i pisci pogrje\u0161no dekliniraju ime najve\u0107ega rimskoga boga; govori se na ime i pi\u0161e: Jupitra, Jupitru itd. mjesto: Jupitera, Jupiteru.\u00ab Tako g. T. M. u \u00bbViencu\u00ab od g. 1884. str. 223.* (* Misli se na Tomu Mareti\u0107a. (Nap. M. S.)) Da vidimo razloge, \u0161to ih navodi g. T. M. u potvrdu svojega mi\u0161ljenja.<br \/>\n\u00bbPrema nominativu Jupiter ne mo\u017ee nikako biti genitiv: Jupitra.\u00ab<br \/>\nO tom ne mo\u017ee biti razlo\u017eite sumnje, ali ko pi\u0161e i govori Jupitra pisa\u0107e valj ada i govoriti i Jupitar. A valja li pisati i govoriti Jupitar?<br \/>\nNe valja, misli g. T. M. Za \u0161to? \u00bbJa pitam, po kojem pravilu prelazi rimski e samo u toj rije\u010di u a? Zar mijenjamo e u Hermes, Filopemen, panter itd.?\u00ab To mu je prvi i naj ja\u010di argumenat. Da vidimo koliko vrijedi.<br \/>\nKako razbiramo iz pitanja g. T. M., on ne bi zabavljao oblika Jupitar, kad bi bilo rije\u010di, u kojima \u00bbprelazi rimski e u a.\u00ab Ne znamo \u0161ta bi rekao g. T. M. da izvr-nemo onu njegovu \u00bbzar mijenjamo e u Hermes, Filopemen, panter?\u00ab pa da ga zapitamo: Zar ne mijenjamo e u Niger &#8211; Nigar, djel. 13, 1. Sosipater &#8211; Sosipatar, rim. 16, 21. Sve ku\u0161aju\u0107i dobro dr\u017eite, l sol. 5, 20. itd.? To su drugi ra\u010duni, re\u0107i \u0107e mo\u017ee biti g. T. M. Dopu\u0161tamo, ali ako ne vrijede i vi\u0161e a to vrijede svakako koliko i njegovi, jer ako nije n. pr. Niger i bli\u017ee rije\u010di Jupiter a to joj je svakako blizu koliko i Hermes. Prema tomu ako je prosto g. T. M. izvoditi iz rije\u010di Hermes, da ne valja pisati Jupitar, prosto je i onima, koji ne \u0107e da pi\u0161u Jupiter, izvoditi iz rije\u010di Niger-Nigar daje dobro pisati kako pi\u0161u Jupitar. Megju tim oni, koji pi\u0161u Jupitar, mogli bi navesti u potvrdu svojega pisanja rije\u010d, \u0161to je svojini zavr\u0161etkom &#8211; o tom ne mo\u017ee da bude sumnje -rije\u010di Jupitar blizu da bli\u017ee ne mo\u017ee biti, a jama\u010dno kud i kamo bli\u017ee nego \u0161to je panter, da i ne spominjemo Hermes, Filopemen: to je rije\u010d frater-fratar.<br \/>\nDrugi mu razlog podaju ruski pisci i pjesnici i na\u0161 Vuk.<br \/>\nProgjimo se Rusa, jer \u0161to je njima dobro ne mora da bude za to i nama dobro.<br \/>\nDa, a Vuk, koji pi\u0161e Jupiterom &#8211; Jupitera djel. 14, 12, 13 ? G. bi T. M. najbolje u\u010dinio, da je brane\u0107i oblik Jupiter naveo samo Vuka.<br \/>\nMoramo priznati a i radi smo priznati, da nije svaki put lako, a na ime onako a priori odsje\u0107i kako da pi\u0161emo ovu ili onu rije\u010d latinsku ili gr\u010dku. Ko bi rekao, da je pored (KctcroiTepo\u00ab;) &#8211; kositer sa svim valjano (T]youuLvo&lt;;) -iguman, kad ne bi oblika iguman potvrdio najve\u0107i uglednik &#8211; narod?<br \/>\nOblika Jupiter &#8211; Jupitera ne potvrgjuje, istina, najve\u0107i uglednik &#8211; narod, ali ga potvrgjuje veliki uglednik &#8211; Vuk. Da vidimo koliko vrijedi u pitanju, \u0161to se oko njega bavimo, ugled Vukov.<br \/>\nPonajprije \u0107emo re\u0107i, da bi jedva vi\u0161e vrijedilo nego \u0161to vrijedi puka dosko\u010dica, kad bismo ustvrdili: \u0161to Vuk pi\u0161e Jupiter &#8211; Jupitera dokazuje samo da ne valja pisati Jupiter &#8211; Jupitra.<br \/>\nA dokazuje li Vukov ugled, da treba pisati samo Jupiter? -\u0160to Vuk pi\u0161e n. pr. Damask djel. 9, 2. ne dokazuje, da valja pisati samo Damasak, koje \u0107e biti jo\u0161 i bolje nego \u0161to je Damask. I sam g. T. M. prizna\u0107e nam, da se mo\u017ee pisati i Damask. I tako pored oblika, \u0161to ih imadu gr\u010dke i latinske rije\u010di u Vukovu prijevodu Novoga Zavjeta mo\u017ee biti oblika, koji \u0107e biti dobri kao i Vukovi \u0161to su, a mo\u017ee biti jo\u0161 i bolji od Vukovih.<br \/>\nA je li mogao Vuk pogrije\u0161iti? Mogao je i pogrije\u0161iti napisav\u0161i Jupiter, kao \u0161to je mo\u017ee biti pogrije\u0161io na-pisav\u0161i: Pozdravite Olimpana, rim. 16, 15. gdje je nominativ Olimpan na\u010dinjen prema gr\u010dkomu akusativu (0A.UJI71TOLV.)<br \/>\nG. je T. M. poku\u0161ao, da svojim argumentima razuzla a Vukovim svjedo\u010danstvom da rasije\u010de \u010dvor. Rasje\u0107i je \u010dvor svakako lak\u0161i posao: je li g. T. M. rasjekao \u010dvor, neka sude, koji umiju suditi, razuzlao ga nije.<br \/>\nTo su nekolike sumnje, \u0161to su nam se nametnule \u010ditaju\u0107i razlaganje g. T. 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